Bill Moyers interviewed Jon Stewart in a piece on Bill Moyers Journal. Absolutely fascinating interview, if you missed it, the video should be posted here tomorrow. I would strongly advise you to watch it. Stewart is a lot more complex than I thought he was. You can find a transcript of the interview here. An example where Moyers and Stewart talk about the McCain interview:
BILL MOYERS: I saw McCain shrivel. I mean, he’s been on your show…
JON STEWART: He didn’t believe me. I think anybody who’s been in a POW camp for five years can– take eight minutes on THE DAILY SHOW.
BILL MOYERS: But something happened. You saw it happen to him. What you saw was evasive action. It wasn’t shriveling, it was merely
BILL MOYERS: But he dropped his head, and you could you could
JON STEWART: Actually, he– began to he stopped connecting and just looked at my chest and decided, “I’m just gonna continue to talk about honor and duty and the families should be proud,” all the things that are cudgels emotionally to keep us from the conversation. But, things that weren’t relevant to what we were talking about.
BILL MOYERS: Your persistence and his inability to answer without the talking points did get to the truth, that there’s a contradiction to what’s going on in Vietnam in there’s a contradiction. Yeah, exactly, that there’s a contradiction to what’s going on in that war, that they can’t talk about.
JON STEWART: That’s right. There is a there is an enormous contradiction, and it is readily apparent, if you just walk through simple sort of logic, and simple rational points. But the thing that they don’t realize is that everyone wants them to come from beyond that contradiction so that we can all fix it. Nobody is saying, “We don’t have a problem.” Nobody is saying that, “9/11 didn’t happen.” What they’re saying is, “We’re not a fragile country, trust us to have this conversation, so that we can do this in the right way, in a more effective way.”
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