Question for FTK, Davescot and World Nut Daily

Have you actually read the bill in question?. I ask because I have and I don’t find any mention of:

“Mom” and “dad” and “husband” and “wife” would have to be edited from all texts.
Cheerleading and sports teams would have to be gender-neutral.
Prom kings and queens would be banned, or if featured, would have to be gender neutral so that the king could be female and the queen male.
Gender-neutral bathrooms could be required for those confused about their gender identity.
A male who believes he really is female would be allowed into the women’s restroom, and a woman believing herself a male would be allowed into a men’s room.
Even scientific information, such has statistics showing AIDS rates in the homosexual community, could be banned.

Perhaps, you should follow the link above and find out what the bill really says, before making such claims…
Instead what I found was stuff like this:

220. No person shall be subjected to discrimination on the basis
of disability, gender, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion,
sexual orientation, or any other characteristic that is contained in
the definition of hate crimes set forth in Section 422.55 of the
Penal Code in any program or activity conducted by an educational
institution that receives, or benefits from, state financial
assistance or enrolls pupils who receive state student financial aid.


14 Responses

  1. I really don’t get why the homobigots launch into type A mania whenever any legislation giving gays equal rights is passed. The daffiness of these people is unnerving, especially when they live in your backyard (we recently had a similar kerfuffle up here in Maine over statewide anti-discrimination protections that included sexual orientation).

  2. I don’t get it either…

  3. I really don’t get why the homobigots launch into type A mania whenever any legislation giving gays equal rights is passed

    Can’t imagine.

  4. “Prom kings and queens would be banned, or if featured, would have to be gender neutral so that the king could be female and the queen male.” — You know, this was the case at my high school the last three prom kings were girls, and socity didn’t fall apart or anthing.

  5. You know, there are those of us who do not believe in Hate Crimes. Assault and Battery is Assault and Battery whether it is done to a white male, white female, black male, black female or whoever. A so-called “Hate Crime” is just another way to put people in jail longer. I am a white male. If some white punk beats me up he gets 2-6 years in jail for A&B. If the same white punk beats up a gay white male, he might get 30 years more. Why? Is a the life of a gay white male more precious than my life? Hate Crimes are hypocritical racist bullshit. If two young men fight and one happens to be gay and the other one shouts out a gay epithet it becomes a hate crime. That’s bullshit. And a jury is more likely NOT to find the “straight” guy guilty if they know he is gonna get 30 years extra.

  6. Oldfart – there is a big difference between getting in a fight with someone, and targeting someone for violence because of qualities such as race, sexual orientation, etc. Hatred exists in the world and people act on that hatred…which is despicable.

  7. Unfortunately, the kind of attitude Oldfart expresses is all too common. In a perfect world, perhaps, Oldfart’s idea would make sense. But this is not a perfect world, and there are a lot of people who seem to think(fill in the blank here) people are somehow less than human, and therefore “worthy” of hate. I wish this were not so. I wish the kind of nondiscrimination legislation that bill ants to put into place, was not necessary. But it is so, and, sadly, bills like these are necessary.
    Anne G

  8. This has nothing to do with a “perfect world”. This has to do with the “police state”. Blowing up two black children in a church long ago was an obvious “hate crime”. Five black gangbangers beating up 3 white gangbangers for the purpose of stealing their beer is not a hate crime. It’s A&B and Theft. But the police, who have warped every law ever written to control conspiracy, gangs, organized crime and dope dealers and applied those laws to common citizens, will turn it into a hate crime (along with the local DA) for…..whatever reason police do such things. One more reason we have the largest prison population in the world. The Hate Crimes bills are a hyperreaction to the days when police ignored assaults against gays, women and blacks. I understand that all too well just as I remember why abortion was legalized in the first place. But the legal establishment has a long history of misapplying these laws and getting away with it. Bush isn’t the only one who distorts and misuses the laws of the land.

  9. On the other hand, people do hate gays, etc, and specifically target them for violence based on that hate. Still happens all the time.

  10. Yup. People hate gays, blacks, women, their neighbors, their husbands, their wives, their children, their dogs and cats, people of different faiths, scientists, global-warming skeptics, rightwingnuts, Bush, fundamentalists of any kind and muslims. You can’t legislate hate away anymore than prejudice was legislated away. Only education and encouragement will work to overcome human nature.

  11. This legislation is not about legislating hate away, anymore than previous legislation was about legislating prejudice away. It is about preventing people from acting on that hate by specifically targeting people for discrimination and violence…

  12. I get that people, gays in aprticular get targeted for violence because of group membership. What I don’t get is how this is any worse than targeting someone for violence because you want to steal their cell phone. Why is hate any worse than any other motivation for an unprovoked assault?

  13. I do realize the legislation si question is not a hate crimes law, but an anti-discrimination law, but the subject came up.

  14. Um, yeah, it came up over a year ago. Now I know why some bloggers close comments on their posts after a couple of months…

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