Creative Editing at Bosnian Pyramid Pseudo-Science Web Site

Given my views on the Bosnian Pyramid fraud, I was much surprised to see my post on Archaeology Magazine’s Top Ten Discoveries list more or less cross-posted on Bosnian-Pyramid.com. But then I noticed something missing. Let’s compare. Me:


Archaeology Magazine has revealed their list of the top ten archaeological discoveries for 2007. They also added nine more that they thought were important. Not making either cut was the Bosnian pyramid. I’m sure you are all disappointed at that (please don’t send me hate mail, I’m kidding)![bolding mine – afarensis] Nor were any of the numerous discoveries of Noah’s Ark. Or the tomb of Jesus. Anyway, what do you all think? Did they miss anything? Include something they shouldn’t have?


Them:

Archaeology Magazine has revealed their list of the top ten archaeological discoveries for 2007. They also added nine more that they thought were important. Not making either cut was the Bosnian pyramid. I’m sure you are all disappointed at that! Nor were any of the numerous discoveries of Noah’s Ark. Or the tomb of Jesus. Anyway, what do you all think? Did they miss anything? Include something they shouldn’t have?

Notice they left out my derogatory comment to the Bosnian Pyramid nonsense. They left in the bits about the numerous discoveries of Noah’s Ark and the Jesus tomb and without the bolded part these don’t make much sense either. Their version of my post makes it sound like I regret Archaeology Magazine left these out. Nothing could be further from the truth. To be clear, the Bosnian Pyramid is psuedo-scientific bunk foisted off on scientifically naive people, as are the many, many discoveries of Noah’s Ark and the “discovery” of the tomb of Jesus.
Why is it, I ask rhetorically, that all holders of pseudo-scientific ideas, whether it be intelligent design, creationism, UFO’s, or Bosnian pyramidologists rely on the same intellectually dishonest tactics to argue their claims?

40 Responses

  1. Please just relax, the author and source was indicated!
    However, article has been adjusted.
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

  2. re: pseudo-science, reality, honesty.
    None of the SENSATIONAL discoveries made in the Balkans in 2007 have been considered in your adored and ‘honest- debunkers’ top ten. Before accusing and teasing others about pseudo-science, and trying to “sell yourself” as the ‘bringer of absolute thruth’, please be informed that even Jesus is more ‘real’ than all the materialist dogmas of your ‘cocky-minded-monkeys’ pulled together.
    Jesus don’t need the ‘faith’ of people like you and alike in order to exist.
    Merry Christmas.

  3. In other news, giants have been discovered! With photographic evidence and everything!

  4. The Bosnian Pyramids, “World’s Largest Pyramids”, are real, and they are NOT in the UK or USA, but in a small country called Bosnia, if you like it or not.
    I’m so happy that the people of Bosnia have what the Western Egoists don’t have :-).
    P.S. Do you have better arguments than fake pictures?

  5. re: pseudo-scientific ideas?
    Has Darwin’s “Theory” been proved? No.
    Should we call it pseudoscience too? Maybe.
    Everyone has the freedom to choose to believe in what he most prefers, no one has the right to accuse others to be dishonest, especially not people who’s Bible teach them to descend from a worm, which is still just a theory.

  6. Hyperborean – I linked to that article because of the discussion about accepting things based on ones religious or ideological preconceptions, rather than a rational evaluation of the evidence. Mo one is denying that the landform in question is located in Bosnia. I say landform because everbody with the requisite archaeological and geological experience that has visited the site has declared it to be a natural feature of the landscape. In the meantime, misguided pyramidologists have destroyed valuable Bosnian archaeological features in the area. Features that Bosnia should be proud of and that need to be preserved.
    Anonymous – Paleoanthropologists don’t have a bible, they have evidence…When I accused Hyperborean of being dishonest it was because of his behavior, not because of what he believed in. It should be noted that rather than having to include what I had to say about the Bosnian hill, he deleted all my words and that is just as intellectually dishonest as his first attempt. Hyperborean can, if he wishes, continue to believe what he wants about the object in question, but when he engages in quotemining I have the right to call him on it – that is part of how people arrive at the truth.

  7. Hyperborean – I linked to that article because of the discussion about accepting things based on ones religious or ideological preconceptions, rather than a rational evaluation of the evidence. Mo one is denying that the landform in question is located in Bosnia. I say landform because everbody with the requisite archaeological and geological experience that has visited the site has declared it to be a natural feature of the landscape. In the meantime, misguided pyramidologists have destroyed valuable Bosnian archaeological features in the area. Features that Bosnia should be proud of and that need to be preserved.
    Anonymous – Paleoanthropologists don’t have a bible, they have evidence…When I accused Hyperborean of being dishonest it was because of his behavior, not because of what he believed in. It should be noted that rather than having to include what I had to say about the Bosnian hill, he deleted all my words and that is just as intellectually dishonest as his first attempt. Hyperborean can, if he wishes, continue to believe what he wants about the object in question, but when he engages in quotemining I have the right to call him on it – that is part of how people arrive at the truth.

  8. I admit I’ve made a mistake, but I repeat I always indicate the author and the source. It was not my intent to censor your article.
    Now, please let me quote your statement about the Bosnian pyramids:
    “I say landform because everbody with the requisite archaeological and geological experience that has visited the site has declared it to be a natural feature of the landscape. In the meantime, misguided pyramidologists have destroyed valuable Bosnian archaeological features in the area. Features that Bosnia should be proud of and that need to be preserved.”
    I have to contradict you here. Not ‘everybody’ with what you call “requisite archaeological experience” that has visited the archaeological locations declared it to be a natural landscape.
    All Egyptologists (5 in total) confirmed that in Visoko we have World’s Biggest pyramids. Are the Egyptian archaeologists, geologists and egyptologists not good enough for you? Egyptians are the most qualified experts in the field of pyramid research.
    Where do you have the Proof & Evidence that “pyramidologists” destroyed valuable Bosnian archaeological features?
    I challenge you herewith to provide valuable proof and evidence about your statements! ex. pictures, news articles with true evidence of archaeological heritage being destroyed by what you call “pyramidologists”.
    I would suggest you to check your sources first before advancing such slander propaganda.
    Now, please let us be ‘scientifically honest’,
    please provide the hard evidence for such accusations.
    Sincerely,
    Hyperborean

  9. You seem to have a nasty troll infection here afarensis.
    Hyperborean, those aren’t “pyramids” they’re called mountains and hills. You might want to actually read into the subject before you sneer, the carnival sideshow talker in charge of the “excavation” has been involved in numerous efforts to fake international support for his “discovery.” He’s also exploited the local labor pool, government agencies, etc.
    Has Darwin’s “Theory” been proved? No.
    Should we call it pseudoscience too? Maybe.

    Has any scientific “theory” been proved? No.
    Is evolutionary theory the best answer we have for explaining the development of species through time? Yes. Has it withstood 150 years of creationists trying to kill it? Yes.

  10. afarensis, I think it is all just a misunderstanding.

    dogmeatib, just keep your arrogance for yourself.
    You are free to believe in any Theory you wish.

  11. dogmeatib
    I’m amused by your futility.
    Goodbye.

  12. dogmeatib
    I’m amused by your futility.
    Goodbye.

  13. dogmeatib, just keep your arrogance for yourself.
    You are free to believe in any Theory you wish.

    Actually, no, I’m not. I look at the evidence and rational thinking forces me to accept the best evidence. See now, fossil record of millions of fossils that show gradual progression as animals adapt to the environmental pressures placed upon them, or *poofed* into existence according to a self-contradictory 3000 year old book.
    I can see why you mistakenly used the word … believe

  14. re: pseudo-science, reality, honesty.
    None of the SENSATIONAL discoveries made in the Balkans in 2007 have been considered in your adored and ‘honest- debunkers’ top ten. Before accusing and teasing others about pseudo-science, and trying to “sell yourself” as the ‘bringer of absolute thruth’, please be informed that even Jesus is more ‘real’ than all the materialist dogmas of your ‘cocky-minded-monkeys’ pulled together.
    Jesus don’t need the ‘faith’ of people like you and alike in order to exist.
    Merry Christmas.

    I ‘amuse’ you with my futility?
    Wow, talk about projection.

  15. Afarensis,
    Thank you, I’m well informed about all these articles, but in none of these there’s HARD EVIDENCE about archaeological heritage being destroyed! These are just insinuations/ allegations of the project opposers, there’s is no hard proof about destroyed heritage. Show me pictures, reports, court decisions…
    I have dozens of news articles and hard evidence stating and proving the contrary.
    At the following link you can see what some people may risk if called to court for such false accusations:
    The case of Robert Duquemin against British Archaeology
    http://www.carter-ruck.com/assistants/rjd.html
    Good bye.

  16. dogmeatib
    Wow, talk about projection.
    Ever heard about experience?
    —————————-
    Let’s be scientific. I recommend you to read this article:
    Critical Science Begins to Cut Through Emotionalism and Censorship
    by Michael Fishwick
    http://www.kolbecenter.org/fishwich.crit_science.html
    Maybe we still have a chance to develop a reasonable scientific discussion?
    Hope afarensis won’t censor my post.

  17. Actually Hyperborean, I’ve read that piece before. Sorry, I’ve seen statements regarding problems with evolution, but as is true with this link, the statements aren’t followed up with legitimate evidence but instead age old talking points that have been debunked for years (in some cases decades). One key to a ‘rational discourse’ is to avoid calling the establishment you are trying to reform “liars” and the theory you are challenging, “lies.” When the discussion turns to evidence of dinosaurs and humans coexisting and “historical global disasters” [generally to be accepted as code words for Noah’s flood] any chance of reasonable discussion is gone.
    What’s next, aliens made the great pyramids as landing platforms and the Nazca lines are directional beacons?
    http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/
    Responds to most of the claims made in your link.
    As for the ‘pyramids,’ to be honest, it would be really cool if there were pyramids there, unfortunately I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest that they are anything but natural formations. The problem is, I do look at the evidence and the evidence doesn’t support pyramids in the Balkans, doesn’t support creation, doesn’t support a global flood, etc. etc. etc.

  18. Actually Hyperborean, I’ve read that piece before. Sorry, I’ve seen statements regarding problems with evolution, but as is true with this link, the statements aren’t followed up with legitimate evidence but instead age old talking points that have been debunked for years (in some cases decades). One key to a ‘rational discourse’ is to avoid calling the establishment you are trying to reform “liars” and the theory you are challenging, “lies.” When the discussion turns to evidence of dinosaurs and humans coexisting and “historical global disasters” [generally to be accepted as code words for Noah’s flood] any chance of reasonable discussion is gone.
    What’s next, aliens made the great pyramids as landing platforms and the Nazca lines are directional beacons?
    http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/
    Responds to most of the claims made in your link.
    As for the ‘pyramids,’ to be honest, it would be really cool if there were pyramids there, unfortunately I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest that they are anything but natural formations. The problem is, I do look at the evidence and the evidence doesn’t support pyramids in the Balkans, doesn’t support creation, doesn’t support a global flood, etc. etc. etc.

  19. The only one who has engaged in censorship is you, Hyperborean. As for the rest, well:

    The Visoko region is, in many ways, the heart of the historic Bosnia. It is home to the
    remains of over five different neolithic settlements; of Illyrian and Roman ruins
    (fortifications and roads); of numerous medieval necropoleis of stecci (sing.: stecak; a
    particular form of Bosnian medieval tombstones, often decorated with reliefs and
    inscriptions). In addition, there is the nearby village of Muhasinovici, where a decorated
    plate with inscription of a famous 12th-century Bosnian ruler, Kulin ban, was found (also
    indicating remains of a church and settlement in the vicinity), as well as the village of
    Arnautovici (the medieval town of Mile where Bosnian 14-15th century kings were
    crowned) with the remains of King Tvrtko’s royal and burial church. The remains of the
    royal medieval town of Visoki, a preserved national monument, sit right on top of the hill
    Osmanagic claims to be a pyramid and in the town of Visoko itself are three old Ottoman
    mosques and the Orthodox church of St. Procopius, all national monuments. Even more
    important, this region is known for occasional and accidental archaeological finds that
    indicate yet more historical structures, but systematic long-term archaeological projects
    have never been carried out here.

    Yet we are supposed to let pseudo-scientists with no archaeological experience whatsoever dig around and possibly poke into skeletons? As far as the later link goes, give me a break. Claims like that have been debunked so many times that many of the creationist organizations here in the USA have stopped using them because they felt it damaged their credibility.

  20. Speaking of censorship, a geologist looked at the stones being found at the “pyramid sight” in a number of posts at The Hall of Maat. When you click on the picture links, this what you get. Open exchange of information isn’t a Bosnian pyramidologists strongsuit.

  21. dogmeatib
    ———
    First of all, please avoid to put in my mouth words I haven’t uttered.
    Second, there’s plenty of scientific evidence today against the theory of evolution. Maybe the new scientific evidence don’t sound convincing to you, but the evidence exist. You have my permission to ignore it.
    Third, just because someone has a critical approach to the ‘Theory of Evolution’ it doesn’t mean that the person is a creationist, pseudo-scientist etc.
    The world, dear dogmeatib, isn’t black or white (in the sense of black and white thinking.)
    What arises from your statements is a typical ‘closed-mindness’ toward critical thinking and new acquired scientific evidence.
    People think they can invalidate evidences about the flaws in the theory of evolution or about the existence of the ‘Bosnian Pyramids’ etc. by putting labels on them or quoting some theorem or axiom such as “misleading pseudo-science”, “charlatanism”, “creationism”, “ad populum fallacy argument” etc. In effect, what those people are trying to do is the attempt to use semantics to erase objective reality.
    Unfortunately for them, reality doesn’t work that way.
    After all, such type of mental predisposition is typical for those who are not inclined to new scientific discoveries, in any scientific field, indipendently if in anthropology or archaeology, especially if the new evidence doesn’t fit into their materialistic reductionist world views.
    Doubting things and looking for answers will help one learn things, but trying to debunk everything outside your world view does not lead to learning.
    And least but not last, the Egyptians are more qualified exsperts in pyramidal structures than you, thus…
    I would suggest you to keep an eye on the Balkans.

  22. dogmeatib
    ———
    First of all, please avoid to put in my mouth words I haven’t uttered.
    Second, there’s plenty of scientific evidence today against the theory of evolution. Maybe the new scientific evidence don’t sound convincing to you, but the evidence exist. You have my permission to ignore it.
    Third, just because someone has a critical approach to the ‘Theory of Evolution’ it doesn’t mean that the person is a creationist, pseudo-scientist etc.
    The world, dear dogmeatib, isn’t black or white (in the sense of black and white thinking.)
    What arises from your statements is a typical ‘closed-mindness’ toward critical thinking and new acquired scientific evidence.
    People think they can invalidate evidences about the flaws in the theory of evolution or about the existence of the ‘Bosnian Pyramids’ etc. by putting labels on them or quoting some theorem or axiom such as “misleading pseudo-science”, “charlatanism”, “creationism”, “ad populum fallacy argument” etc. In effect, what those people are trying to do is the attempt to use semantics to erase objective reality.
    Unfortunately for them, reality doesn’t work that way.
    After all, such type of mental predisposition is typical for those who are not inclined to new scientific discoveries, in any scientific field, indipendently if in anthropology or archaeology, especially if the new evidence doesn’t fit into their materialistic reductionist world views.
    Doubting things and looking for answers will help one learn things, but trying to debunk everything outside your world view does not lead to learning.
    And least but not last, the Egyptians are more qualified exsperts in pyramidal structures than you, thus…
    I would suggest you to keep an eye on the Balkans.

  23. “The only one who has engaged in censorship is you, Hyperborean”
    What, where, haha…?
    The story about the skeleton is well known, but the article exists only in Bosnian language. Maybe you should learn the Bosnian language and update your sources before onforwarding such insuations.
    Please find better argumentations and update your files if you wish to contradict me!

  24. “Speaking of censorship, a geologist looked at the stones being found at the “pyramid sight” in a number of posts at The Hall of Maat. When you click on the picture links, this what you get. Open exchange of information isn’t a Bosnian pyramidologists strongsuit.”
    Hah, if you want pictures, I will give all the pictures you want. I already gave some pictures to one of the project opposers for an article against the project, thus…
    Ask Mr. Doug Weller from Hall Of Maat, he’s one of my favorite forum members. He’s the only person from the opposing party I really like.

  25. Just for you info:
    If you need infos, pictures or articles please feel free to send me an e-mail. Even if you wish to write against the project.
    It will not change the ‘fact’ that in Visoko there’s “World’s Largest Pyramid”.
    πŸ˜‰

  26. Second, there’s plenty of scientific evidence today against the theory of evolution.

    Really? I’d love to see some references to peer-reviewed research presenting evidence against evolution. Got any?

    Doubting things and looking for answers will help one learn things, but trying to debunk everything outside your world view does not lead to learning.

    Actually, science is all about trying to debunk everything, and provisionally accepting those ideas which stand up to every attempt.

  27. “As far as the later link goes, give me a break. Claims like that have been debunked so many times that many of the creationist organizations here in the USA have stopped using them because they felt it damaged their credibility.”
    A Successful Project Presentation Was Held At Franklyn Pierce University
    http://www.bosnian-pyramid.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=447&start=75#11419
    Please update your files πŸ™‚

  28. The original post that started this conversation, you know the one where you censored my comment about the Bosnian natural landform, the one where everything I said has been edited out of existence. And of course all those pictures Paul Heinrich linked to get a “not allowed” graphic now.

  29. “The original post that started this conversation, you know the one where you censored my comment about the Bosnian natural landform”
    I’m sorry, I have NOT censored anything, it must be the protection system of the server!
    Just download the pictures of your interest to your computer and upload it to the page.
    Or use for image linking: http://tinypic.com/
    Then copy and paste the linked image to the article.
    If you still have problems please let me know.
    And I repeat I’m not censoring you.
    Take care.
    Hyper

  30. First of all, please avoid to put in my mouth words I haven’t uttered.
    Huh? I didn’t put any words in your mouth, the only time I quoted anyone, I quoted the text from your link.
    ——————
    Second, there’s plenty of scientific evidence today against the theory of evolution. Maybe the new scientific evidence don’t sound convincing to you, but the evidence exist. You have my permission to ignore it.
    To what scientific evidence are you referring? And in which peer reviewed journals does it appear?
    ——————–
    Third, just because someone has a critical approach to the ‘Theory of Evolution’ it doesn’t mean that the person is a creationist, pseudo-scientist etc.
    It does when they refer, in their own paper, to creationist websites, papers, and journals. Have you actually read the piece that you provided the link for? Every link/source cited within went to a creationist/religious, or pseudo-scientific site. Unfortunately, science doesn’t involve a “divine inspiration” that will allow me to see beyond the documentary evidence provided.
    ————————
    The world, dear dogmeatib, isn’t black or white (in the sense of black and white thinking.)
    What arises from your statements is a typical ‘closed-mindness’ toward critical thinking and new acquired scientific evidence.

    No, the world isn’t black and white, but it can easily be divided in to science and non-science. As soon as someone starts spouting off about creation, and Darwinism, you can generally tell what they are going to say. I was actually polite enough to respond to your statements, requests, and read your link as well as the links within the document you cited. I found it to be less than convincing given that it included numerous creationist claims that have been refuted for decades. Did you bother to follow my link and examine the evidence there? Given the alacrity of your response, I doubt it. I am quite excited and open to new scientific discoveries. I regularly read journals and articles discussing new discoveries and new interpretations of the evidence. Also, I am quite critical of the Clovis-first theory of new world settlement while at the same time critical of the “out of Africa” model as well. Simply because I read your ‘evidence’ and dismiss it because I’ve read it numerous times before doesn’t make me closed-minded, apparently it makes me more aware of the state of research than you are. The fact that you don’t seem to have returned the favor of reading my link suggests that you are again projecting and happen to be the closed-minded one.
    ———————–
    People think they can invalidate evidences about the flaws in the theory of evolution or about the existence of the ‘Bosnian Pyramids’ etc. by putting labels on them or quoting some theorem or axiom such as “misleading pseudo-science”, “charlatanism”, “creationism”, “ad populum fallacy argument” etc. In effect, what those people are trying to do is the attempt to use semantics to erase objective reality.
    Actually no, they have looked at the evidence and aren’t convinced. Given the methodology utilized by the researchers in each of these cases, and the other “theories” espoused by the pyramid advocates, they have labeled themselves.
    ———————–
    Unfortunately for them, reality doesn’t work that way.
    After all, such type of mental predisposition is typical for those who are not inclined to new scientific discoveries, in any scientific field, indipendently if in anthropology or archaeology, especially if the new evidence doesn’t fit into their materialistic reductionist world views.

    [chuckle] Talk about labeling. New discoveries are often met with skepticism. If the ones you tout are, in fact, actually new scientific discoveries, then continue to research, actually publish papers, and defend the hypothesis you present. Thus far I see publicity and attacks rather than research and publication.
    ————————
    Doubting things and looking for answers will help one learn things, but trying to debunk everything outside your world view does not lead to learning.
    And least but not last, the Egyptians are more qualified exsperts in pyramidal structures than you, thus…
    I would suggest you to keep an eye on the Balkans.

    The Egyptian who is working on the Balkans ‘find’ is a geologist, I would bow to their knowledge of geology, but not to pyramids. I will keep an eye on the Balkans hills, I find them rather amusing.

  31. First of all, please avoid to put in my mouth words I haven’t uttered.
    Huh? I didn’t put any words in your mouth, the only time I quoted anyone, I quoted the text from your link.
    ——————
    Second, there’s plenty of scientific evidence today against the theory of evolution. Maybe the new scientific evidence don’t sound convincing to you, but the evidence exist. You have my permission to ignore it.
    To what scientific evidence are you referring? And in which peer reviewed journals does it appear?
    ——————–
    Third, just because someone has a critical approach to the ‘Theory of Evolution’ it doesn’t mean that the person is a creationist, pseudo-scientist etc.
    It does when they refer, in their own paper, to creationist websites, papers, and journals. Have you actually read the piece that you provided the link for? Every link/source cited within went to a creationist/religious, or pseudo-scientific site. Unfortunately, science doesn’t involve a “divine inspiration” that will allow me to see beyond the documentary evidence provided.
    ————————
    The world, dear dogmeatib, isn’t black or white (in the sense of black and white thinking.)
    What arises from your statements is a typical ‘closed-mindness’ toward critical thinking and new acquired scientific evidence.

    No, the world isn’t black and white, but it can easily be divided in to science and non-science. As soon as someone starts spouting off about creation, and Darwinism, you can generally tell what they are going to say. I was actually polite enough to respond to your statements, requests, and read your link as well as the links within the document you cited. I found it to be less than convincing given that it included numerous creationist claims that have been refuted for decades. Did you bother to follow my link and examine the evidence there? Given the alacrity of your response, I doubt it. I am quite excited and open to new scientific discoveries. I regularly read journals and articles discussing new discoveries and new interpretations of the evidence. Also, I am quite critical of the Clovis-first theory of new world settlement while at the same time critical of the “out of Africa” model as well. Simply because I read your ‘evidence’ and dismiss it because I’ve read it numerous times before doesn’t make me closed-minded, apparently it makes me more aware of the state of research than you are. The fact that you don’t seem to have returned the favor of reading my link suggests that you are again projecting and happen to be the closed-minded one.
    ———————–
    People think they can invalidate evidences about the flaws in the theory of evolution or about the existence of the ‘Bosnian Pyramids’ etc. by putting labels on them or quoting some theorem or axiom such as “misleading pseudo-science”, “charlatanism”, “creationism”, “ad populum fallacy argument” etc. In effect, what those people are trying to do is the attempt to use semantics to erase objective reality.
    Actually no, they have looked at the evidence and aren’t convinced. Given the methodology utilized by the researchers in each of these cases, and the other “theories” espoused by the pyramid advocates, they have labeled themselves.
    ———————–
    Unfortunately for them, reality doesn’t work that way.
    After all, such type of mental predisposition is typical for those who are not inclined to new scientific discoveries, in any scientific field, indipendently if in anthropology or archaeology, especially if the new evidence doesn’t fit into their materialistic reductionist world views.

    [chuckle] Talk about labeling. New discoveries are often met with skepticism. If the ones you tout are, in fact, actually new scientific discoveries, then continue to research, actually publish papers, and defend the hypothesis you present. Thus far I see publicity and attacks rather than research and publication.
    ————————
    Doubting things and looking for answers will help one learn things, but trying to debunk everything outside your world view does not lead to learning.
    And least but not last, the Egyptians are more qualified exsperts in pyramidal structures than you, thus…
    I would suggest you to keep an eye on the Balkans.

    The Egyptian who is working on the Balkans ‘find’ is a geologist, I would bow to their knowledge of geology, but not to pyramids. I will keep an eye on the Balkans hills, I find them rather amusing.

  32. Wohooo, Hyperborean. Can you explain this?

  33. Speaking of censorship, why, when I try to access Hyperborean’s forum (where I’m still officially member, as my name is in the member list), do I get a message “You have been banned from this forum”, when I never posted any “abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented” material? Why have all the posts where I questioned the (former – as they seem to have changed again) rules of the forum, particularly the one which forbade the members to deny the existence of the “pyramids”, been erased, along with quite a good deal of my posts?
    No wonder Doug Weller is Hyperborean’s “favourite” opponent: he is the only one left on his forum, for the sake of “open-mindedness”, each other one has been banned… πŸ™‚

  34. “Speaking of censorship, why, when I try to access Hyperborean’s forum (where I’m still officially member, as my name is in the member list), do I get a message “You have been banned from this forum”, when I never posted any “abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-oriented” material? Why have all the posts where I questioned the (former – as they seem to have changed again) rules of the forum, particularly the one which forbade the members to deny the existence of the “pyramids”, been erased, along with quite a good deal of my posts?
    No wonder Doug Weller is Hyperborean’s “favourite” opponent: he is the only one left on his forum, for the sake of “open-mindedness”, each other one has been banned… :-)”
    Your old member name was closed after you’ve decided to leave the forum by yourself.
    However, the new username you are using is still working fine, you are able to read the forum updates etc. And you are free to participate, or not to participate, at the discussions.
    And as I already said:
    Please don’t worry for the forum, maybe they are not many participants at the discussions but they are still many regular readers from all around the world.
    After all Bosnian-Pyramid.com is not a commercial web-site.
    I was wondering why so many people who consider themselves ‘true-scientists’ are still reading what most of them consider a “pseudo-scientific web-site”!???
    πŸ™‚

  35. dogmeatib
    ———
    There’s plenty of scientific evidence against the theory of evolution. But I’m not here to debunk the many myths of Darwins ‘Theory’. Just take a look at the human evolution timeline full of flaws, new studies shows that neither Neanderthals were our ancestors, and last year 3 other species stepped out of the group…
    Sharks were NOT evoluting for 60, 80 mil. of years or more (the oldest shark fossil that ever have been found is 409-million-year-old) etc. etc…
    Your king remained without clothes since a long time ago.
    And even you do not believe in higher beings…
    Merry Christmas πŸ˜‰

  36. dogmeatib
    ———
    There’s plenty of scientific evidence against the theory of evolution. But I’m not here to debunk the many myths of Darwins ‘Theory’. Just take a look at the human evolution timeline full of flaws, new studies shows that neither Neanderthals were our ancestors, and last year 3 other species stepped out of the group…
    Sharks were NOT evoluting for 60, 80 mil. of years or more (the oldest shark fossil that ever have been found is 409-million-year-old) etc. etc…
    Your king remained without clothes since a long time ago.
    And even you do not believe in higher beings…
    Merry Christmas πŸ˜‰

  37. Glad to see you know even less about evolution than you do about pyramids…

  38. afarensis, FCD wrote: “Glad to see you know even less about evolution than you do about pyramids…”
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    Glad to receive an answer full of valid “scientific” argumentations with a touch of insult.
    Ohhh… how much do I love the controversy πŸ™‚

  39. Okay, I’ll play.

    Just take a look at the human evolution timeline full of flaws, new studies shows that neither Neanderthals were our ancestors, and last year 3 other species stepped out of the group…

    Um, no. The relationship between neanderthals and humans has been a matter of debate since they were first discovered. To explain the history of paleoanthropological thinking on neanderthals would take a large post in itself. In short, since the mid 1980’s, at least, they have been considered a sister clade to Homo sapiens by a majority of paleoanthropologists. A small group thinks that they may have contributed some (or a lot of) genes to the Homo sapiens and are busy trying to come up with the empirical evidence to prove it. In short, if you actually knew what you were talking about you would not have made that statement – a statement which betrays a vast unfamiliarity with paleoanthropology. As for the three species you are talking about, I have to ask, which species are they? I follow paleoanthropology quite closely and am unaware of any papers published last year which conclusively rule out any hominins…
    Hope you had a nice Christmas!

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